Comments on: Why Loch Lomondside Camping should be banned! http://www.macsadventure.com/blog/loch-lomond-camping/ Ideas, Ideas, Advice and Inspiration for your next Walking or Trekking Holiday Fri, 06 Aug 2010 16:03:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Gary http://www.macsadventure.com/blog/loch-lomond-camping/comment-page-1/#comment-151 Gary Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:01:57 +0000 http://www.macsadventure.com/blog/?p=43#comment-151 "in my opinion camping out of the boot of your car on the side of Loch Lomond is not wild camping." And camping at campsites, which you advocate, is? You have to remember Loch Lomond for the vast majority of Scotland's population is the closest 'great outdoors'. What needs to be done is the minority that are ruining it for everbody to be taken to task. It seems to be the modern day cop out these days - "if a minority is ruining something for the majority, then lets just ban everybody!" It's lazy and our everyday freedoms are slowly being taken away. “in my opinion camping out of the boot of your car on the side of Loch Lomond is not wild camping.”

And camping at campsites, which you advocate, is?

You have to remember Loch Lomond for the vast majority of Scotland’s population is the closest ‘great outdoors’. What needs to be done is the minority that are ruining it for everbody to be taken to task. It seems to be the modern day cop out these days – “if a minority is ruining something for the majority, then lets just ban everybody!” It’s lazy and our everyday freedoms are slowly being taken away.

]]> By: Derik Brydon http://www.macsadventure.com/blog/loch-lomond-camping/comment-page-1/#comment-147 Derik Brydon Sun, 17 Jan 2010 15:15:09 +0000 http://www.macsadventure.com/blog/?p=43#comment-147 I agree with you man, the thing that your forgetting is the route your talking about is used 95% of the time by responsible walkers who camp over night, when they bag their rubbish they are ripped open by birds, squirrels and foxes. This is because they are not uplifted in time. What needs to happen is a daily uplift of rubbish in the area. Youre just assuming that the rubbish has been thrown away by neds or drunk people when in fact the rubbish is strewn all over by animals. If the Park employed people to walk the way and uplift rubbish i for one would apply. Yes there are idiots, however why didnt you take 10 mins and pick up some of the rubbish if you are so passionate about it? I agree with you man, the thing that your forgetting is the route your talking about is used 95% of the time by responsible walkers who camp over night, when they bag their rubbish they are ripped open by birds, squirrels and foxes. This is because they are not uplifted in time. What needs to happen is a daily uplift of rubbish in the area. Youre just assuming that the rubbish has been thrown away by neds or drunk people when in fact the rubbish is strewn all over by animals. If the Park employed people to walk the way and uplift rubbish i for one would apply. Yes there are idiots, however why didnt you take 10 mins and pick up some of the rubbish if you are so passionate about it?

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]]> By: Neil http://www.macsadventure.com/blog/loch-lomond-camping/comment-page-1/#comment-135 Neil Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:10:20 +0000 http://www.macsadventure.com/blog/?p=43#comment-135 I read with <a href="http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/news/display.var.2528222.0.Camping_to_be_banned_at_Loch_Lomond.php" rel="nofollow">The Herald</a> with pleasure this morning that the National Park Authority are acting to <a href="http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/news/display.var.2528222.0.Camping_to_be_banned_at_Loch_Lomond.php" rel="nofollow">Ban Camping on Loch Lomondside</a>. The Herald Reports <blockquote>"Scotland's first national park is to ban camping at three beauty spots in an attempt to curb violence, littering and drunken parties. The strict measures, proposed by the Loch Lomond and The Trossachs National Park Authority (NPA), signal an end to the unrestricted access enjoyed by visitors at one of the country's most popular visitor destinations."</blockquote> This is absolutely fantastic news but I have several concerns. <ul> <li> The camping ban is not getting implemented soon enough. April and May are the most popular months for walking the <a href="http://www.macsadventure.com/walking/scotland/self_guided/westhighlandway/overview.php" rel="nofollow">West Highland Way</a>, a route that is heavily influenced by this litter and anti-social behaviour. A large numbers of visitors to the park will still be subjected to this nuisance. </li> <li>The Loch Lomond Camping Ban is not far reaching enough. The ban should extend to all informal "car camping" as by banning camping at only a few locations a mixed message will be sent and the problem will just be moved to another location. </li> <li> The article suggests that "informal campsites" will be created. Why do we need informal campsites when there are already a large number of formal, regulated campsites with excellent facilities. The NPA is just creating another problem for further down the line.</li></ul> Well it's a good start and I can only hope my voice, amongst many others played a part in getting the NPA moving on this pressing issue which is destroying our national park. But in implementing these changes let's get the message right, not just for the Loch Lomond National Park, but all national parks in Scotland. I read with The Herald with pleasure this morning that the National Park Authority are acting to Ban Camping on Loch Lomondside. The Herald Reports

“Scotland’s first national park is to ban camping at three beauty spots in an attempt to curb violence, littering and drunken parties.

The strict measures, proposed by the Loch Lomond and The Trossachs National Park Authority (NPA), signal an end to the unrestricted access enjoyed by visitors at one of the country’s most popular visitor destinations.”

This is absolutely fantastic news but I have several concerns.

  • The camping ban is not getting implemented soon enough. April and May are the most popular months for walking the West Highland Way, a route that is heavily influenced by this litter and anti-social behaviour. A large numbers of visitors to the park will still be subjected to this nuisance.
  • The Loch Lomond Camping Ban is not far reaching enough. The ban should extend to all informal “car camping” as by banning camping at only a few locations a mixed message will be sent and the problem will just be moved to another location.
  • The article suggests that “informal campsites” will be created. Why do we need informal campsites when there are already a large number of formal, regulated campsites with excellent facilities. The NPA is just creating another problem for further down the line.

Well it’s a good start and I can only hope my voice, amongst many others played a part in getting the NPA moving on this pressing issue which is destroying our national park. But in implementing these changes let’s get the message right, not just for the Loch Lomond National Park, but all national parks in Scotland.

]]> By: Neil http://www.macsadventure.com/blog/loch-lomond-camping/comment-page-1/#comment-118 Neil Mon, 03 Aug 2009 16:03:23 +0000 http://www.macsadventure.com/blog/?p=43#comment-118 Hi Alice, don't get me wrong, I am all for getting away from it and enjoying true wild camping. But in my opinion camping out of the boot of your car on the side of Loch Lomond is not wild camping. It is simply putting a scarce, shared resource under unsustainable pressure and it needs to be controlled so that Loch Lomond can remain a wonderful resource for all to enjoy. Hi Alice, don’t get me wrong, I am all for getting away from it and enjoying true wild camping. But in my opinion camping out of the boot of your car on the side of Loch Lomond is not wild camping. It is simply putting a scarce, shared resource under unsustainable pressure and it needs to be controlled so that Loch Lomond can remain a wonderful resource for all to enjoy.

]]> By: Alice http://www.macsadventure.com/blog/loch-lomond-camping/comment-page-1/#comment-112 Alice Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:03:06 +0000 http://www.macsadventure.com/blog/?p=43#comment-112 How can you want to ban lochside camping! Should the majority be punished for the mistakes of the few. How can one "get back to nature" in the way you can when wild camping for you go to a campsite, with other people and power sources! That is not camping, its for people who fool themselves thinking they are "outdoorsy" How can you want to ban lochside camping! Should the majority be punished for the mistakes of the few. How can one “get back to nature” in the way you can when wild camping for you go to a campsite, with other people and power sources! That is not camping, its for people who fool themselves thinking they are “outdoorsy”

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