We had the absolute pleasure of welcoming travel legend Rick Steves back for his second adventure with Macs. (Yes, second. We like to think that means we passed the test.)

Rick and his friends had an incredible time hiking Italy's spectacular Alta Via 1 in Comfort. So much so, in fact, that he invited our CEO, Neil Lapping, onto his podcast!

They talk about the Dolomites and the joys of self-guided hiking and exploring at your own pace. Along the way, they mention epic Alpine trails, classic long-distance routes like Hadrian’s Wall and the West Highland Way, plus coastal favorites such as the Amalfi Coast and Rota Vicentina.

They also share practical tips on picking the right trip for you, what gear really matters on a multi-day hike, and how the Macs Adventure app can make your journey smoother.

Neil joins the conversation around the 32-minute mark, so grab a coffee, press play, and settle in!

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